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		<title>By: xristosdomini</title>
		<link>http://bobbybagina.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/nobel-peace-prize-winner-wants-to-kill-bush/#comment-2940</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very well stated.  As an American I am very appreciative of Tony Blair&#039;s actions.  I did not agree with many of the man&#039;s social agendas, but he was a tiger of a foreign relations guy.  One of a select few liberals who actually love western society and are patriotic...  That, my friends, is worth admiring in an individual.  The problem with many &quot;anti-war&quot; groups is that they have no grid for war being a means to an end, namely, peace.  True justice is that when evil is done, consequences follow, and then there is peace and righteousness in the land once again.  I would love to ask Hillary Clinton what she really means when she claims that Bush is &quot;The most radical presidency in our history.&quot;  That being said, war is not an end... it is a means to an end.  Until we reach that end, war is a very necessary evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well stated.  As an American I am very appreciative of Tony Blair&#8217;s actions.  I did not agree with many of the man&#8217;s social agendas, but he was a tiger of a foreign relations guy.  One of a select few liberals who actually love western society and are patriotic&#8230;  That, my friends, is worth admiring in an individual.  The problem with many &#8220;anti-war&#8221; groups is that they have no grid for war being a means to an end, namely, peace.  True justice is that when evil is done, consequences follow, and then there is peace and righteousness in the land once again.  I would love to ask Hillary Clinton what she really means when she claims that Bush is &#8220;The most radical presidency in our history.&#8221;  That being said, war is not an end&#8230; it is a means to an end.  Until we reach that end, war is a very necessary evil.</p>
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		<title>By: BlairSupporter</title>
		<link>http://bobbybagina.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/nobel-peace-prize-winner-wants-to-kill-bush/#comment-2939</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been concerned at this kind of loose language here in the UK - usually about Tony Blair. It&#039;s hard to judge where free speech stops and incitement to violence starts. And I have a lot of concerns about some of the stuff posted on the internet. We should remember that there are plenty of oddballs out there just waiting for someone with authority, as presumably this Nobel peace prize winner has, to allow then free rein. It always amazes me that it is the &#039;peace-loving&#039; anti-war types who tell you that leaders deserve to die for their decisions. These people do not grapple with complexity but wallow in emotion. Apart from that, they side-step democracy by insisting on the greater validity of THEIR cause. The politicians have the democratic mandate, not the unsatisfied or unsatisfiable pressure group.

And what&#039;s this &quot;peace movement&quot; she started in Northern Ireland? Forgive me if I&#039;ve never heard of it. What I HAVE heard of is my former prime minister&#039;s work over 10 years to bring the centuries old Irish problem to an end. In that he succeeded after all his predecessors had failed by bringing together opposing factions over his period in power, starting a few months after being first elected in 1997. I am VERY proud of Blair for his years of peace-making war here as well as in Kosovo and Sierra Leone. You know, Blair the &#039;war criminal&#039;? He had the help of American presidents and others and the backing of many groups, true. Despite many seeing his as equally &#039;complicit&#039; with Bush in responsibilty for the deaths in Iraq, Blair brought peace to Northern Ireland. A &#039;man of war&#039; making peace. Never forget THAT. YOU, Ms Williams, did not make war or peace, but a lot of noise, signifying little.

Groups with their worthy but narrow &quot;peace agendas&quot; do NOT hold the key. Nor do they have the diplomatic skills necessary. Singing &quot;all you need is love&quot; or &quot;give peace a chance&quot; is churlish, simplistic and in the end naive.

Bring us your simple message of peace - unadulterated by reality - if you must. But until YOU are elected, don&#039;t tell us that it&#039;s OK to kill western leaders. There are enough mad and evil anti-democracy groups and individuals in this world with that agenda.

Get behind your president, not with a gun, but to support him. Few of us &#039;like&#039; the present situation in Iraq but we should remember whose side he is on. None of us like to see the increasing numbers of dead, which are being caused by insurgents. That&#039;s exactly WHY they do it. They know we are affected, unlike themselves whose mediaeval extremism and yearning for martyrdom puts them well beyond any standards of human decency.

Those who conflate cause and effect so effortlessly and concude that WE are the bad guys are WRONG, so wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been concerned at this kind of loose language here in the UK &#8211; usually about Tony Blair. It&#8217;s hard to judge where free speech stops and incitement to violence starts. And I have a lot of concerns about some of the stuff posted on the internet. We should remember that there are plenty of oddballs out there just waiting for someone with authority, as presumably this Nobel peace prize winner has, to allow then free rein. It always amazes me that it is the &#8216;peace-loving&#8217; anti-war types who tell you that leaders deserve to die for their decisions. These people do not grapple with complexity but wallow in emotion. Apart from that, they side-step democracy by insisting on the greater validity of THEIR cause. The politicians have the democratic mandate, not the unsatisfied or unsatisfiable pressure group.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s this &#8220;peace movement&#8221; she started in Northern Ireland? Forgive me if I&#8217;ve never heard of it. What I HAVE heard of is my former prime minister&#8217;s work over 10 years to bring the centuries old Irish problem to an end. In that he succeeded after all his predecessors had failed by bringing together opposing factions over his period in power, starting a few months after being first elected in 1997. I am VERY proud of Blair for his years of peace-making war here as well as in Kosovo and Sierra Leone. You know, Blair the &#8216;war criminal&#8217;? He had the help of American presidents and others and the backing of many groups, true. Despite many seeing his as equally &#8216;complicit&#8217; with Bush in responsibilty for the deaths in Iraq, Blair brought peace to Northern Ireland. A &#8216;man of war&#8217; making peace. Never forget THAT. YOU, Ms Williams, did not make war or peace, but a lot of noise, signifying little.</p>
<p>Groups with their worthy but narrow &#8220;peace agendas&#8221; do NOT hold the key. Nor do they have the diplomatic skills necessary. Singing &#8220;all you need is love&#8221; or &#8220;give peace a chance&#8221; is churlish, simplistic and in the end naive.</p>
<p>Bring us your simple message of peace &#8211; unadulterated by reality &#8211; if you must. But until YOU are elected, don&#8217;t tell us that it&#8217;s OK to kill western leaders. There are enough mad and evil anti-democracy groups and individuals in this world with that agenda.</p>
<p>Get behind your president, not with a gun, but to support him. Few of us &#8216;like&#8217; the present situation in Iraq but we should remember whose side he is on. None of us like to see the increasing numbers of dead, which are being caused by insurgents. That&#8217;s exactly WHY they do it. They know we are affected, unlike themselves whose mediaeval extremism and yearning for martyrdom puts them well beyond any standards of human decency.</p>
<p>Those who conflate cause and effect so effortlessly and concude that WE are the bad guys are WRONG, so wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: xristosdomini</title>
		<link>http://bobbybagina.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/nobel-peace-prize-winner-wants-to-kill-bush/#comment-2938</link>
		<dc:creator>xristosdomini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush Bashing... the next American pastime.  Has anyone noticed that someone can get up and shoot their mouth off (as long as it is liberal) and get applauded for saying what they think even if it isn&#039;t popular... meanwhile Bush gets dragged through the mud for saying that the war in Iraq can work?  I don&#039;t get how something that obviously hypocritical can be so heroic and patriotic to the left.  Were I the DA in the Dallas area, I would arrest that woman and get all the legal action I could against her.  She didn&#039;t just make a private comment to a few friends, she was at a conference with 1000+ attendees... that&#039;s pretty darn public.  I remember a day where if someone would have done something like that (to Clinton) they would have been torched at the stake for treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush Bashing&#8230; the next American pastime.  Has anyone noticed that someone can get up and shoot their mouth off (as long as it is liberal) and get applauded for saying what they think even if it isn&#8217;t popular&#8230; meanwhile Bush gets dragged through the mud for saying that the war in Iraq can work?  I don&#8217;t get how something that obviously hypocritical can be so heroic and patriotic to the left.  Were I the DA in the Dallas area, I would arrest that woman and get all the legal action I could against her.  She didn&#8217;t just make a private comment to a few friends, she was at a conference with 1000+ attendees&#8230; that&#8217;s pretty darn public.  I remember a day where if someone would have done something like that (to Clinton) they would have been torched at the stake for treason.</p>
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